[ He's worrying about it??? Mauyn, I'm crying, my placeholder vote before we learned anything in trial was 45 for the sole reason that she must be the only person who could snipe a chandelier chain with a gun. ]
Not unless the deer were directly in your face it isn't. ♪
It's used mostly for close combat, like rescuing hostages in tight quarters. The bullets won't go through the walls, or anything you don't want them to, really.
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It is not in the least useful for anything requiring long range or penetration.
[ so Card I hope you realize that the very idea of 45 sniping the chandelier made me laugh like a goddamn hyena for a variety of reasons. ]
What did you think would happen if the an armed force were to try to subdue criminals or capture someone in a crowded building using weapons that could punch through walls?
[ that defeats the entire point of trying to save any would-be hostages if they get killed by friendly fire because a policeman or SWAT team didn't have x-ray vision or something? ]
[ Can you imagine if the weapon Ayabe chose was a gun and he had to kill Dazai the same way, by hugging him and shooting him from behind? I could have made the bullet pass through and hit Ayabe too and then 45 would give up on him entirely and leave him for dead, this was the thought that ran through my head when I chose a sword. ]
So then you'd want a short ranged gun, but not a very strong one. One with rubber bullets?
[ When will 45 gun everybody down. I hope the endgame condition is simply total body count again so she can go on a murder spree and get herself out of here. ]
[ listen even Julius at the end was just "IF THE POINT WAS TO KILL EVERYONE WHY DID THEY JUST TELL US SOONER" alas he got corrupted before he could expedite that. ]
...it's the caliber of the bullet. How big it is, in other words.
[ raises her hand. puts her thumb and index finger just a little less than a half inch apart. ]
You just need something that's the right size and is designed to actually be ammunition. The UMP45 doesn't have to be lethal.
[ I'm crying, Hisoka tried to tell Minato so early on but Minato just looked at his note and went "haha, oh, Hisoka" and put it away. That note should have gone to anybody else. ]
Is that true for any of the guns here? As long as a bullet fits inside a gun, it can be shot out of it?
Kiiind of? It's a little oversimplified, but yes, it's not like each gun only has its own special kind of round all to itself.
A lot of different handguns and pistols might be chambered for the same, say ... .9x19mm Luger, after all. I can't say that this is the case for every gun here- maybe Master Blue has a few special order, custom items with who knows what design specifications- but otherwise...
[ did you know they make fake bullets with colored powder in the casing for paintball-esque simulated training. ]
[ I know nothing about guns and neither does Ayabe. What he's getting here is that you can sort of mix and match things??? he has no idea, but that's okay. ]
No... I don't really understand, but I have no intention of ever using these things, so that's enough of an explanation for me.
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Date: 2020-03-07 03:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-03-08 04:16 am (UTC)[ He's worrying about it??? Mauyn, I'm crying, my placeholder vote before we learned anything in trial was 45 for the sole reason that she must be the only person who could snipe a chandelier chain with a gun. ]
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Date: 2020-03-10 04:23 pm (UTC)[ or go digging through the gun room to see if there's any ammo in it. ]
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Date: 2020-03-10 05:55 pm (UTC)[Don't do it and don't try. There's probably a bullet out there if she searches long and hard but also please don't. ]
What sort of gun is that? It's not a hunting rifle...?
[ A more acceptable gun, if it's used to hunt for food, but a submachine gun feels like overkill for that purpose. ]
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:01 am (UTC)It's used mostly for close combat, like rescuing hostages in tight quarters. The bullets won't go through the walls, or anything you don't want them to, really.
[ finally: ]
It is not in the least useful for anything requiring long range or penetration.
[ so Card I hope you realize that the very idea of 45 sniping the chandelier made me laugh like a goddamn hyena for a variety of reasons. ]
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:31 am (UTC)What? I didn't know close combat guns were a thing.
[ They all seem to be long range things. Sniping things from at least ten feet away, shooting apart chandelier chains, that sort of thing. ]
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:35 am (UTC)[ that defeats the entire point of trying to save any would-be hostages if they get killed by friendly fire because a policeman or SWAT team didn't have x-ray vision or something? ]
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:38 am (UTC)[ Clearly he has never had to think of this before!! Why would he ]
You would use a knife in that instance...?
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:42 am (UTC)[ please don't bring a knife to a gun fight, Ayabe. ]
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:47 am (UTC)So then you'd want a short ranged gun, but not a very strong one. One with rubber bullets?
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Date: 2020-03-16 05:58 am (UTC)That's a good option if you want to be nonlethal, yes.
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Date: 2020-03-16 06:05 am (UTC).........and an UMP45 is the lethal option...?
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Date: 2020-03-16 06:09 am (UTC)Silly. They make rubber bullets in .45 ACP. You can chamber my gun with whichever you like, depending on what job you want to get done.
[ Does Ayabe think there's a specific gun meant only to fire rubber bullets or something. ]
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Date: 2020-03-17 04:09 am (UTC)Uh... Um.
[ He thought exactly that, yeah. ]
.45... what is that?
[ NUMBERS AND LETTERS ARE BEYOND HIM ]
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Date: 2020-03-17 03:38 pm (UTC)...it's the caliber of the bullet. How big it is, in other words.
[ raises her hand. puts her thumb and index finger just a little less than a half inch apart. ]
You just need something that's the right size and is designed to actually be ammunition. The UMP45 doesn't have to be lethal.
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Date: 2020-03-18 02:30 am (UTC)Is that true for any of the guns here? As long as a bullet fits inside a gun, it can be shot out of it?
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Date: 2020-03-21 03:18 pm (UTC)A lot of different handguns and pistols might be chambered for the same, say ... .9x19mm Luger, after all. I can't say that this is the case for every gun here- maybe Master Blue has a few special order, custom items with who knows what design specifications- but otherwise...
[ did you know they make fake bullets with colored powder in the casing for paintball-esque simulated training. ]
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Date: 2020-03-22 11:17 pm (UTC)No... I don't really understand, but I have no intention of ever using these things, so that's enough of an explanation for me.
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Date: 2020-03-23 02:55 am (UTC)[ gun facts! ]
May it be useful knowledge for you going forward.
[ haha no we're never going to have a gun murder again and all she did was make any evidence more broad rather than more specific ]